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Manfred

     ~The Titer Test Happened

Manfred @ 16 Weeks-11

I was getting ready to have sixteen candles when I learned that you don’t get them for sixteen weeks. Seriously, I don’t think that is right. (Woof!) Okay then, how about sixteen cupcakes. That works. Instead, Shela and Cliff loaded me into that thing they call the Patriot–is’s a large white rolling wagon. We drove to Nampa, Idaho. They said it was a big deal I meet Dr. Calhoun. I don’t see what the fuss is all about, myself.

They talked on about me getting a Vaccine Titer Test (to be sure I am protected). No one said there was a needle involved. They took some blood. My Mom and Dad dropped some cash –don’t you get money for donating blood? Just asking a simple question here and thinking we could stop for ice cream with the coin earned!?!

Bridget loved me and said I had the best personality ever. Cliff and Shela were chatting on like old friends with this Bridget woman. Seriously, she is the one that stuck me with the needle. I think it is a conspiracy. Dr. Calhoun said I was the whole package–testicles are down, too! I guess that is a big deal. What did they expect?

Greta-12Cliff made all these promises that girls would fawn over me at the Idaho Veterinary Hospital, but it was pretty darned empty. I saw three or maybe four hot chicks. Oh and then there was that Greta girl. I think she is a bit odd as birds go. I didn’t give her a look and seriously why was Mama Shela get all up in her face and fuss over this silly bird? She plucks her feathers–what’s up with that.

I guess you could say there is a Stripper Bar at the Idaho Veterinary Hospital in Nampa– look at this nut case. (Woof!) For some reason Mama Shela loves this silly Parrot.

Breeder Note:

Yes, we drive to Nampa, Idaho. Dr. John Calhoun and his expert staff are worth the drive. Manfred is Longhair Weimaraner–our newest Stud Dog. Many of our females (the Longhairs as well as the Longhair Carriers) are related to Stackhouse, our current Longhair Stud Dog. By the way–Stackhouse will be eight years old this November. His siring days are numbered–he has a couple of good years left at least. The biggest issue is we don’t breed back to the same lineage–Stack is related to most of these girls that will produce the Longhairs. Without Manfred, we would be very limited in our ability to produce those Longhair puppies. That would be a sad reality.

Extending our Time

Delicate Discussions

   ~ Part Two

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Last Friday we discussed the accidental loss of the Weimaraner. One of those haunting and gut-wrenching scenarios that stick with you forever. Of course, we have to be ever vigilant and make sure they are as secure as it is possible. There are; however, other considerations that may well extend your pup’s chance of survival.

No one wants to consider that they might lose their puppy sooner rather than later. While there are no guarantees there a few things we can do to increase the potential longevity.

  1.  Be cautious with the vaccine — we recommend never doubling up the vaccine. That means if you are planning to get an annual DAPPv (Canine Distemper, Adenovirus Type 1 (Hepatitis), Adenovirus Type 2 (Respiratory Disease), Parainfluenza, and Parvovirus) do not combine it with Lepto, Kennel Cough Protection, or the Rabies. It may be your Vet’s standard protocol, but spreading them out is less of a hit on their immune system. (Getting the Lepto only vaccine also gives you greater protection against Lepto).8-Bernie X Boone WK1-22Follow the suggested OwyheeStar puppy vaccine protocol and get a titer test instead of the typical sixteen-week puppy shot. Getting the titers checked for immunity is the smart approach–even if your puppy has shown no sign of being vaccine reactive. Most Weimaraners who have a severe, life-threatening reaction to the sixteen-week shot never had a problem with any previous puppy vaccination. The vaccine titer costs a bit more but nothing in comparison to developing an ongoing immune system issue.

    After the one-year booster, you might consider (down the road) checking the titers again to see if they are still immune. Many professionals have come around to the idea that the DAPPv protection often lasts three years or even longer. The beautiful thing about a titer test is you can find out their immunity level. The unnecessary vaccine could be a potential trigger to a serious health issue.

  2.  Be as Holistic as possible. There are different approaches to Veterinary care. According to the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association (AHVMA)  holistic medicine humane to the core. The techniques used in holistic medicine are gentle, minimally invasive, and incorporate patient well-being and stress reduction. Holistic thinking is centered on love, empathy, and respect. Click on the link in this paragraph to learn more about this approach to Veterinary medicine.
  3.  Medications–some are not as safe as others in our opinion and experience. 20229379_10155028879813305_8042793045446538520_nRimadyl (carprofen) and its generic counterpart Novox Carprofen are something we are not comfortable using for the Weimaraner. You never know when it is going to have a serious adverse side effect–in our case and that of two other OwyheeStar clients experience it led to severe and uncontrollable seizures. There are alternative anti-inflammatory medications. Whenever possible, we recommend you avoid Rimadyl. If it becomes necessary, then try to reduce the dosage or get off it as soon as possible. To manage or to prevent this situation; however, requires that you advocate because it is most usually the go to drug of choice after surgery or when facing arthritic situations.
  4. No one food is right for every Weimaraner. A quality grain-free food is our suggestion, and we are not speaking about one of these premium brands that touts all kind of additives. We believe in adding a quality supplement in the right dosage and staying away from foods that claim they add these things. Why? You might ask. Well,  supplements get old, and even dog food needs to be fresh. Also, how do you know the quality of the additives? You don’t. Stick with the basic quality food and add something that is proven and has excellent quality control. Keep in mind, many of the Big Name Brands are not as high quality as you might think. Your pocketbook may not be able to afford a raw food diet, or the best dog food money can buy. You can provide basic quality food. The right food is apt to help them live longer.
  5. NuVet--we cannot say enough about this supplement. The only caution we have is for young pups. Too much of a good thing can be counterproductive. We suggest you follow our recommended protocol. A small amount of the NuVet powder sprinkled on the young Weimaraner’s food every day will make a big difference. It might take time to see results if you have existing problems, but there are many testimonials including the one we received last week from Mary.  (Click on the NuVet  link below to learn more about this supplement.)

    She writes. PS – when we got Olli we started both dogs on Nuvet. Rudi had horrible allergies but they steadily improved over the last 2 years to the point of not needing any medication. Coincidence?  I think not. We are sold on the benefits.

  6. Bloat is a complicated and somewhat mysterious life-threatening situation. We are going to refer you to an article (rather than addressing it ourselves).  Click Here to find out more about the risk of bloat, thank you!
  7. Insurance–the pros and cons of having it. We believe you should invest in some kind of major medical coverage. Eventually, the athletic Weimaraner is going to need extreme Veterinary or special care. Sometimes this happens early in life–a torn ACL, etc. There is the threat of bloat (as mentioned above) in this breed, too! We cannot speak to which insurance company pays the best. Our Vet Office has their favorite company because they say they pay quickly. Some people say that if you get the insurance up front that the first year is nearly a wash. Many policies cover the vaccine, general care and then you have the cost of the spay or the neuter. (Typically, there is a set allotted amount to cover basic visits in some of these policies–each one is different).
  8. Do your research, but keep in mind that many of these surgical procedures cost Crane's Lucy4$2,000 and up. Insurance doesn’t negate your personal responsibility. We might forget we are the gatekeeper and in the heat of the moment simply say do whatever is needed. Insurance means it might not be a cost consideration–in the midst of a crisis, your Weimaraner may receive medication that leads to other issues. Everyone just wants to trust their Vet to do what is right. We understand. Nevertheless, it is important to always keep in mind that they are treating all breeds and a lot of mutts. Each Veterinary fur client is important, but they are not all equally sensitive to certain vaccines, medication, etc.

Thank you, for doing the best by your Weimaraner. We appreciate every sacrifice made for our OwyheeStar offspring. We work with the best Weimlovers in the universe. How privileged we are!?!

The photos we added are not directly related to loss–just a reminder of what we value.

 

 

 

Elio

At 16 Weeks

Lorenzen's Elio June 23 2017Elio continues to be an absolute joy and an incredible addition to my little fur family!  He’s a calm, well-mannered puppy who picks up on things incredibly fast! We’re going into week 3 of puppy classes and he’s doing great! 🙂

Breeder Comment

Vaccine Crossroad

A Reminder to Proceed with Caution

The Sadie X Stackhouse Litter will celebrate their sixteen-week birthday on this coming Sunday (June 25th). That brings everyone to a crossroad. By now a lot has happened, and everyone will have found themselves insanely busy raising their Weimaraner. The Weimaraner’s (and the OwyheeStar) Vaccine Protocol can have been forgotten.

Your Veterinary office will have a different (broad-based) vaccine protocol. Even if they agree to follow the recommendations, it will fall on the pup’s owner to remember these details. We suggest putting the dates on your calendar and ignoring the Veterinary office alerts. Otherwise, it gets very confusing. If you have forgotten the protocol read on1

 

  • 6-Week NEOPAR® Puppy Shot(given at OwyheeStar)
  • 9-Week *Nobivac Canine 1-DAPPv
  • 12- Week *Nobivac Canine 1-DAPPv
  • Other vaccines such as Lepto and Kennel Cough (Bordatella) should be given as needed–and avoided when possible. We recommend not combining these shots with any other vaccine–, especially rabies. Vaccine challenges the immune system to build antibodies; therefore, we strongly encourage you to space Lepto, Bordetella, and Rabies vaccination at least two weeks apart. We realize that many veterinary practices give multiple vaccinations at a single visit; however, this approach is easier on the immune system. If a reaction does occur, then you know what caused it and plan to avoid it in the future. Yes, we understand this is a more costly approach–avoiding the risk is worth it!
  • 16-Week Crossroad <== Opt for the Vaccine Titer Test instead of automatically getting another puppy shot. Your Vet is going to recommend just doing the shot because that is typical for the all-breed approach; however, a percentage of Weims are vaccine sensitive. Although your pup probably never had a reaction before, please do not ignore this warning. Even a mild vaccine reaction can trigger immune system issues–some of these lead to on-going health problems and in certain instances death. It is not worth the risk! The vaccine titer test runs more than double the cost of the typical puppy shot, but it might save you thousands over time as well as the potential heartache. Almost without exception, our protocol has been producing immunity by week sixteen, which means your puppy doesn’t need any more essential vaccine. If you need the optional vaccines (Bordetella or Lepto) these can be done; however, please space them at least two weeks apart from the Rabies.
  • Vaccine Blog Post   For the OwyheeStar Client Only click here! (requires password)

PUPPY VACCINE CLARIFICATION (Lepto)

There is a significant push by the Veterinary community (due to the recent rise of Lepto) to include Lepto in the puppy shot. The Weimaraner Club of America (as well as others who study this breed) recommend you wait to give the Lepto, etc. until the puppy shots are completed. The puppy shot should not include Lepto or Corona. No other vaccine should be combined with the puppy shot. Waiting for the Lepto, Bordetella, and another vaccine until the pup is a little older is less risky. It takes more effort and costs a bit more to space the vaccine, but is worth it.

What is the DAPPv?

Canine Distemper, Adenovirus Type 1 (Hepatitis), Adenovirus Type 2 (Respiratory Disease), Parainfluenza, and Parvovirus (Click Here to read more about the vaccine we use. Remember the Puppy Shot should not contain the Lepto or Corona.

OwyheeStar Disclaimer

The Weimaraner Club of America (WCA) Vaccine Protocol

We are neither Licensed Veterinarians nor Licensed Veterinary Techs. Our recommendations are based on twenty-plus years breeding the Weimaraner (exclusively) as well as the breed recommendation (from the Weimaraner Club of America). Ultimately, you have to decide what is the best approach. This protocol is considered a more Holistic and safer approach. That being said, our advice cannot replace that of your Veterinary of choice. 

Holistic for the Weimaraner

3 & 8 Zula Blue 6Wks-49We are always concerned when puppies exit for their new home. It is not because I am ill over their departure. I can actually rejoice, because we put a great deal of work into each pup’s place. We know the kind of folks that are taking this pup home. The concern surrounds the on-going decisions each family must face.

Once the pup arrives, they will soon be visiting their veterinary of choice. There are all kinds of approaches to veterinary practice. They vary in their way of doing things much like other medical doctors. In truth, most of them have studied longer, and more intently than those that serve us humans. We have a deep respect for them. This is true, even if we disagree with their approach.

The Weimaraner is sensitive; vaccine reactions are real. We highly doubt your veterinarian has ever seen the Weimaraner have a severe vaccine reaction. In reality, this breed would not make up 1% of their practice. That doesn’t mean they don’t care, it means the Weimaraner’s potential problems occur in only about 5% of the breed; the odds of them facing it are slim to none. Regardless, the severe vaccine reaction should be avoided at all cost.

4_Zula Blue 6WksMild reactions are not something we like to see either; however, the severe reaction can be lethal ( or bring on chronic health issues). Who can guess what is affected when the immune system is over-challenged? Vaccine is meant to challenge the pup’s system to develop antibodies to fight off some of the more life-threatening viral infections. Parvo is the greatest risk, and has been for a number of years. There are others, but all pale in comparison.

We are well aware of the recommendation (and the reasoning behind the recommendation) to forego any puppy shot before the 8-week mark. Nevertheless, we have stuck with our six-week high-titer Parvo only vaccine. People who have followed the recommendations, have been getting excellent results. Our protocol, which is based on the Weimaraner Club of America’s breed-specific protocol, works. We have never lost a pup to Parvo. We want to keep it that way. To put things in perspective, over the years we have received notes from people who never vaccinated their pup. We do not recommend that; however, letting a puppy leave with no vaccination whatsoever, is something we cannot do.

OwyheeStar on the Basics

The basics are something you are going to have to ensure happen. Your veterinary doesn’t have the time to do this for you. They have a broad-based practice, and they do not see the point in this protocol. Reactions when presented with these options can vary, but the pressure to do something else can be immense. It is not unreasonable to follow this protocol. You are not compromising the pup’s health. In a nutshell what you need to remember is fairly simple (the details are listed below).

  1. They need two puppy shots–our protocol calls for a 9-week, and a 12-week shot.
  2. This puppy shot should not contain Lepto or Corona
  3. Skip the 16-week puppy shot — ask the vet to get a titer test. The titer test will determine immunity levels. Only do the the sixteen-week puppy shot if the titer test shows a lack of immunity.
  4. Do not combine shots–this includes when you get the pup’s rabies vaccination.
  5. Do any other shot at a separate visit -processing one vaccine is enough for the young pup.
  6. If you are concerned about the dangers of Lepto spray your yard with a 10% bleach solution using a garden sprayer —frequency would based upon how many Lepto-carrying critters who visit your yard. Once a week might be a good rule of thumb. Lepto is treatable, but of course, we want to avoid it. Wait to get the Lepto vaccine until the pup is a bit older. We recommend 20 weeks.

Note: You are the guardian of the pup’s health. Be holistic in your approach. It is not rude to ask the vet to do each shot separate. It will cost you a bit more doing it that way. It is easier on their immune system. We can all agree we want to avoid health issues, and we do not want something that is meant to protect our new family member to shorten his or her life.

From The Weimaraner Club of America

The use of Corona, Leptospirosis, Bordatella and Lyme vaccines are not recommended unless these diseases are prevalent in the area; and should never be administered along with the core vaccines listed above, but rather separately, and at a time when the pup’s immune system is mature. Rabies vaccinations should be given as required by law, but not coincident with other vaccinations. If possible, wait until the puppy is older than 16 weeks.

Vaccine recommendations are confusing. 

Please keep in mind that at least  5% of  Weimaraners reportedly exhibit a severe reaction to vaccine.  Over vaccination may compromise your pup’s health and well-being.

The Weimaraner Puppy should not receive

  • Lepto  (or any shot containing Lepto)
  • Avoid the 16 Week puppy shot

The Weimaraner Puppy needs  a…

  • 9  week: Canine Distemper, Adenovirus Type 2, Parainfluenza- Parvovirus
  • 12 week: Canine Distemper, Adenovirus Type 2, Parainfluenza- Parvovirus

Choose the antibody test at 16 weeks

  • At 16 week  rather than risk a vaccine reaction, we advise getting a titer test.
  • Should the titer test show low immunity to the Parvo , we recommend a  Parvo-only vaccination rather than a combination  shot.

Layna’s Vaccine Reaction

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Here is a photo of Lanya’s vaccination reaction from her 12 weeks shot. You can see the bump it made on the back of her neck at the injection site.  It took a week for the reaction to appear and about 2 weeks for it to go back to normal. The bump was her only reaction that we noticed. I was pretty nervous for her 16 week tither test but we had very good news, her tests came back that she was protected so we could skip the shot.  We delayed both the 12 week shot and the 16 test by a few weeks to be extra cautious.  It all worked out and we are very thankful we had these suggested vaccination protocols from you guys. Thanks again!

Breeder’s Comment: A small percentage of Weimaraners develop a severe (or life-threatening) reaction to certain vaccines. A serious reaction, is most often associated with post 16-week vaccinations; therefore, we recommend a holistic approach to vaccine. Avoid puppy shots containing Lepto, we recomend you not combine vaccines, and in lieu of a sixteen-week shot we advise you invest in the titre test. We subscribe to the philosophy that it is better to be safe than sorry.

Layna’s reaction happened at the twelve-shot–it was the right shot, and it did not contain Lepto. We are glad her titre test came back showing she had adequate immunity.Here are some other photos of the lovely Layna.

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