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This is Daniel Thor’s dad. I hope you and Cliff are doing very well.

Thor has grown so much and is doing so well. We were wondering if you wanted to use him as a stud because we have been getting so many comments about how pretty and good looking he is.

We are asking before we plan to fix him. But would be open to breeding him if you want to.

Breeder Comment

We agree that Thor is lovely. Thank you, Daniel, for the excellent update and asking us about using Thor as a Stud Dog. We don’t breed back to the same lineage–it is how we have done things forever. Thor is related to all our females– we weave the DNA through the OwyheeStar line. Breeding rights for anyone wondering are spelled out at the top of this page (click here) to read more.

Forbidden Topics……

Politics, Religion, Football, and Dog Breeding….

Cliff watches Boomer search……..

Bono said……..

‘If you’re writing songs, there are two things that you just don’t write about: politics and religion. We write about both.’

Shela’s Mother said….

Polite people do not discuss politics or religion in public.

Cliff says….

You probably should add football and dog breeding to that list. Conversations that might fall under any four of these headings are sometimes heated, salted with deep-seated emotions, and can quickly turn ugly.

So let it be duly noted that we bring up this topic reluctantly. We cannot, however, totally avoid the topic of dog breeding because we find ourselves immersed in the process on nearly every level. Here are a few of our thoughts and ideas.

When it comes to raising quality dogs or Weimaraners in particular….

People have their own ideas about what is right and wrong. It doesn’t always matter where they got the ideas or their set of values. Sometimes they were inspired by someone they respect. Often ideas changed as they moved through life and gained experience. Sometimes ideals or standards are dictated. Often no matter how a person acquires a set of values (related to a certain aspect of their life), they doggedly cling to them. Sometimes they do this at the risk of looking silly. Sometimes they do so at the exclusion of reason, or what used to be called common sense. Issues or matters of the heart can meld together and become difficult to explain.

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  1. Define your mission statement, process, and goals in writing.
    • Having said that it is vital to have a breeding philosophy which includes certain outcomes–this requires more than nebulous ideals.
    • As with any business or organization you should have a written mission statement.
    • Beyond a mission statement you need actual clearly defined goals.
  2. Establish some method to move towards your goals in a step-by-step manner. This has to do with so many factors as well as personal style; but it for sure would include but not be limited to:
    • Any breeder worth their salt looks to improve what they are doing.
    • This can take a myriad of forms.
    • Part of the this process should involved health checks.
    • A quality breeder has a savvy Veterinarian that truly understands what a breeder needs. Putting their eye on the overall program can make a huge difference in outcome.
  3. Find some way to measure success. Success is different for different breeders but should embrace different aspects of the process:
    • Get involved in some venue with peers that will help you improve–hold you accountable.
    • Get feedback from your clients, and stay in touch over a period of years.
    • Keep good records and note problems. When a problem arises determine if it is a random occurrence. If this is reoccurring, or possibly on-going in a certain lineage; make adjustments accordingly.
    • If your venue of choice is not the Show Ring don’t totally discount the importance of what occurs in that venue.
    • Embrace the whole process, and the big picture. No one dog has everything, but they each bring certain attributes to the process. Again, keep record and note of what various matings produce. Use the information in your decision-making process.
  4. FB VHDF Fall 2012 Cliff and Stack_2434CcrWork towards improving the breed. Keep your eye on your own business, and stop worrying about what someone else is doing. Competition can be fun, success is not just earning a prize, or taking the top place. Be truly concerned about the process and the quality of how you do things. If you are not working to improve the breed then you should not be breeding!
    • Health is vitally important. Work toward having good puppy wellness checks; but ultimately healthy parents produce healthy pups.
    • Temperament is equally important. A pup needs to be trainable. There is a combination of factors that contribute to pups that are ready to train. 1. Choice of parents. 2. Early development and handling. 3. On-going socialization.
  5. Know the breed.  You are the educator, and called to help guard many aspects of this breed’s reputation. Do it well!
  6. A breeder must study. We learn new things all the time. This is not a job that sees you putting in your time on the sofa, and lounging around (popping bonbons). It is hard work on every level–clean up, rearing pups, and study are only three aspects that need tended.
  7. Reassess what you are doing. On occasion a good breeder takes time to privately examine their goals. Outcomes can be tough to measure. Adjusting the process of how you get there is not as easy in some exercises. The steps you plan to take to attain your breeding goals are more long term than short term. Sometimes a breeder puts years into weaving DNA, and the outcome is less than hoped. Other times, you get a pleasant surprise. A combination produces offspring of excellent, or better than expected result.

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For the average person getting a Weimaraner, our process means more than they know. Nonetheless, there is little need to stress over these details. The smaller adjustments have very little effect on the pup they get from us. The process and quality is fairly even. Breeding goals, and different reasons for a certain mating are a consideration; however, they are well within the scope of reason.

We are never going to compromise how we do things, nor are we going to forget to consider the final outcome. As we move forward, our intention is to get small (and significant) improvements across the board. For those obsessed with finding the perfect pup, this might sound alarming. In truth, this ensures you get the best possible chance at getting the perfect family member for you.

Finally, breeding the Weimaraner is not a casual pursuit. There is a lot to consider before taking off down this path. Raising a litter for fun is something we cannot endorse. Breeding your pets to make a little extra cash may seem reasonable, but consider the shelter and rescues. They see all too many pups raised by casual breeders. There is a reason for breeders selling their pups with a spay/neuter agreement.

Breeding the Weimaraner takes more time than most hobby breeders can find in their schedule. It is often around the clock work, which requires investment on every level–your time, your money, your energy, and more. The timely altering of pets is almost without exception the right decision. It is a breeder’s duty to educate, and inform the public of the importance of doing so. The many aspects of raising a litter, marketing them, and placing them in quality forever homes is not an easy process. Those who embark upon this journey are duty-bound to honor their commitment.