Category Archives: Longhair
To sum up our previous two discussions in a few words is difficult. We talked about the DNA factor. How it requires both parents to carry the fluffy coat (Longhair) DNA marker to produce Longhair pups. We talked about how difficult it is to see the difference at birth and the DNA testing we do to ensure we have the pups labeled accurately. Finally, we discussed the feathering and showed you a decent photo of what you might expect. What else is there to talk about? Read on to hear what others say about the Longhair Weimaraner–sometimes called the other Weimaraner.
W.W. Denlinger (*)
~In Regards to the Longhair
The ideal hair length is between long and shorthair in the range of the original coarse. It should be smooth and thick with a water repellent undercoat, resistant to weather and thorns. At the same time, it should not be too sensitive to dirt and burrs.
The long-haired Weimaraner has been described as conforming to the Standard for the short-haired dog in every respect except for the length of coat. At birth, the coat of the SH Weimaraner is inclined to be rather crisp, with definite stripes which disappear within a short time.That of the LH Weimaraner is soft and wooly at birth, and has no stripes. The coat of the mature dog, no longer wooly, has a silky texture, and is straight or slightly wavy. On the upper part of the body, the coat is tighter than on the SH dog; on the lower part, it is not so tight. The outer sides of the ears are covered with long, soft, silky hair. The tail, which is not docked as is that of the SH Weimaraner, is heavily feathered so that in the field the dog appears to have a graceful plume-like flag.There is soft feathering on the backs of the legs, and between the toes
*As reported for the Weimaraner Club of America by Deborah Andrews
Weimaraner Club of America Liaison to the German Weimaraner Klub e.V.
Denlinger, W., The Complete Weimaraner, p. 183, retrieved from (http://www.weimclubamerica.org/worldweims/longhair/article06.html).
~ Fun with Charlie Mae
The Game–the way things work!
This continues to be her favorite game. Grab a sock from wherever she can get it – dirty clothes/clean clothes/from a drawer, it matters not!!! Once she successfully finds one, then she comes and finds us to make sure we see she’s got one.
It’s then time for the chase. This is where we run around the house after her, eventually, she jumps on our bed and with some negotiating she will drop it… It’s SO cute (most of the time), if you don’t co-operate with her plan, she’s been known to take out her frustration on the found sock… We just love this big personality pup!
We are in the middle of the Longhair discussion on the blog. It seems right to showcase one today. What better thing to have this from Will and Jill?
Yesterday, Charlie Mae was on the blog (her silhouette), but there is a lot more to the Longhair than that feathering. It has been some time since I talked about the Longhair Weimaraner. There are a very few OwyheeStar clients that don’t care for the look of the Longhair; however, by and large, most really love the idea–even if they don’t embrace getting one. Not everyone is going to like the same thing. That being said–much of what we have achieved is due to the Longhair DNA pool. Those who voice the loudest objections are often the recipient of the benefits.
Your family are adamant Weimaraner lovers–you have had nearly every look available except the Blue Longhair. We know Ellie, your daughter, hopes to one day get a second Longhair. Cliff and I still remember when you contacted us, and the only thing we had available was Charlie Mae. You met us to see what they were like and soon we heard that you wanted to add her to your family. It makes us happy to know you enjoy this lovely girl. Of course, you still have Murphy–the traditional Blue Weimaraner. He is much-loved as well. Thank you, for being a faithful and devoted OwyheeStar Weim-loving family. Here ( https://owyheestarweimaranersnews.com/2016/03/06/murphy/ ) is the last time Murphy, your Blue Boy appeared on the blog.
~ Part Two
Yesterday we discussed a bit about what it takes to raise Longhair puppies. We also talked about Longhair’s the tail as well as the feathering. Here is a beautiful photo (of Charlie Mae) that shows you what we mean.
When the pups first arrive you would be hardpressed to guess the coat length. Some folks marvel at that statement, but here is some evidence that will stand on its own.
From The Sadie X Stackhouse Litter
Honestly, I cannot remember if this was 2016 or 2017 because Miss Sadie is retired. The photos are still relevant. Sadie is a lovely tradition Blue Weimaraner (who is a Carrier). Of course, you remember Stackhouse–our gorgeous Gray Longhair Stud. Together, they produced some fantastic pups. Those of you who have signed up for a puppy from such a litter as this (with mixed coat lengths know what I mean. By week two you can begin to see which are Longhairs, but I am going to show you the Newborn and Week Five photos. Sadie has just the six pups in this litter.
Puppy # 1 (Gray Longhair)
Puppy #2 (Gray Longhair)
Puppy #3 (Blue –Traditional Smooth Coat)
Puppy #4 (Blue –Traditional Smooth Coat)
Puppy #5 (Gray Longhair)
Puppy #6 (Blue Longhair)
The first thing you might notice is the percentage of Longhair pups far exceeds the 50% expectations. Also, there are no Gray or Silver Gray traditional smooth coats in this litter. You can never guess what you might get, despite the chart that the DNA professionals publish. It is an average over time.
We hope you are enjoying this information. Not everyone is a fan of the Longhair, but they have been in the Weimaraner lineage forever. At one point in time, the Germans were going to eliminate the Longhair with selective breeding. There are various stories as to why they opted to forgo the selective breeding to get rid of them. Regardless, they are a thing and popular throughout the globe. In most countries, they can compete on every level; however, in America, they cannot.
~ Part One
Stackhouse, the infamous OwyheeStar Gray Longhair Stud Dog, was featured on yesterday’s blog. Many of our readers have gorgeous pups from a Stackhouse-sired litter. You might find it interesting to note that there are more smooth coats than longhairs. To get a litter in which the longhair pups present requires a Mama who carries the DNA marker for the fluffy-coat, too! Even when they do, unless they are also a Longhair (and not just a Carrier), only a portion of the litter will have the longer coat length.
The Affected and The Carrier
When mating the Affected (a Longhair such as Stackhouse) with a Weimaraner who is a Carrier (such as Dazee) statistically, we should be able to expect 50% of the pups to be Longhairs. Over the last decade plus, we have learned this is an average and not a guarantee. (Ha!) For example, we mated the same pair two years in a row. The first year we only had two longhairs in a litter of eight pups. The next year (with the same everything) we had six longhairs in a litter of eight. It is like everything Weimaraner; predictions are nearly impossible.
Two Carriers mated are said to result in a 25% longhair to smooth coat ratio. There are other factors, but as with the aforementioned (Longhair to Carrier) scenario, it is impossible to predict the outcome. On a couple of occasions, the Carrier to Carrier mating produced no longhairs-othertimes, the result was near the 50% ratio. It is difficult for everyone who is hoping for the Longhair arrival status.
Many folks covet the smooth coats out of such a mating. Their coats tend to be thicker and velvet-like. Waterfowl hunters like to find such a pup because the coat is not only a bit warmer but water resistant. Sure they still get wet, but there is a measure of protection.
The Hair Factor
There is no doubt that the Longhairs are a bit messier; however, it is nothing as you imagine. Unlike the more popular Labrador, the Longhair Weimaraner doesn’t deposit hair all over you and your belongings. It is hard to believe this as being true–especially if you are coming from a situation where you are vacuuming hair from a fur family member who has been gone for some time. It is good to keep them groomed, but even for those that go natural, it is shocking how little they shed.
This blog is the first in a short series discussing the Longhair Weimaraner. Some of you are adverse to the idea of the tendrils (or the feathering) and a fluffy tail. Others are intrigued, and still many of you have both a Longhair and a traditional smooth coat Weimaraner.
We might also mention that the Longhair coat varies widely–some are thick, but more often they are similar looking to the classic look with the feathering on the ears and legs. Oh and then there is the ever so slight additional fluff on the face that almost speaks to a teddy bear look.
The Longhair always sports the undocked tail (unless there was a mistaken assumption that they were a smooth coat). Expedited DNA Testing helps prevent such an error. The newborn pups (longhair and traditional) are nearly impossible to sort; therefore, to ensure accuracy, we do the DNA testing.
Cliff needs a sidekick. Shela is otherwise engaged, and therefore Stackhouse is pretty much always on the heels of Mr. Cliff. He has been patiently waiting for Cliff to complete the current round of greenhouse additions. Stackhouse is ready to go.
While He Waits
I love finding him sitting in the Gator. To be totally honest, Mr. Stack sometimes wants to escape and explore. You might not think this is a problem, but he bothers the kitties and gets into stuff. (oops)
This sweet boy is like all other Weimars–all about the relationship; but the universe surrounds him. The world as he knows it (at OwyheeStar) is complicated. Before long the time change is going to rock his routine. How will we explain that?
When projects happen, Stackhouse goes to work. He is not quite sure Cliff has it right, but he is doing as told–staying in the Gator. Since Dad is distracted it would be a great time to sneak off and check out any number of things–the bird pens, the cats, or to dig in search of a gopher.
Good Boy, Stackhouse!
Hello from the snowy Rockies!!
Shiny had his first nosework competition last weekend, and was Amazing!!!He placed 1st in exterior search, 2nd in interiors, and qualified in both vehicles and container searches to earn his NW1 title; placing 5th overall out of about 50 dogs!!
- Placing at a competition is based on time. For example, Shiny went into the exterior search area and alerted that he found the odor in 10 seconds. (We were allowed 3 minutes to search.) He alerted the interior search in 14 seconds. Very fast!!
- Nosework is based on 3 odors (birch, anise & clove). At the first level, the dogs only need to know birch. Luey & Shiny have already passed the tests for all 3 odors and are ready to sail through the competition levels!!Luey has qualified to compete as well (there’s an “Odor Recognition Test” to pass before competition). The noses on these dogs are downright incredible!!! And we are all having so much fun with the sport!!
We have done some Shed Hunting Too!
My boyfriend, Mark, has started Shiny on sheds & he found his first shed a couple months ago. It was an old one too! Once the dog has some basics on odor recognition, I think it would be really easy to introduce additional odors….hmmm, I wonder if we have truffles around here….
Congratulations on this huge achievement. We look forward to hearing more about their nosework.
We’re writing to update you on River who joined our Family last Spring. We love her so much and she gets along swimmingly with her sister Lagoona (our five-year-old Blue Weimaraner). We thought of sending an update to you both since it’s been seven months now since we picked her up from Cliff in Oregon. Also, I ran into one of your other clients at the pet store the other day who I believe has two short hairs from you both. One is an award winner. Anyway, we can’t express how much joy River has brought to our family and so we wanted to say thank you again to you both and your family for helping to bring so much happiness to our lives.
Here are photos of our fun times at the beach this past September. You can see how happy River is with her sister Lagoona.
All Our Best,
Conor and Erin
We are thrilled you love your new OwyheeStar Longhair Girl (River).
Jan dropped us a note saying–“Hi- I was at PetSmart today (I did not take my dogs in), and I saw a woman with two Weimars, one LH and I knew it had to be one of yours because I know the look. She was Erin with River, we chatted for a few minutes, and I told her about Willow and Cypress. It was nice to meet her.”
We agree that it is special to have two Weims who love you and each other. Many hope to arrive at such a place as you find yourself. We are extremely thankful to receive the update. Thank you, too–for reading the blog and following us.
How to take a Mud Bath
Every Weimaraner loves a mud bath more than their regular bath right? Stackhouse is related to Atticus and most certainly shares his love of the mud bath. Even in the dead of winter, if he can find a mud puddle he belly flops in it for the sheer delight.
You can not have, just throw.
Oh, and have a Mohawk.
Maybe you noticed the above Facebook post. For all those wondering about the Longhair; I suppose many might view this as over-the-top. Nevertheless, the Longhair addict has been known to indulge in activities not available to those having the traditional smooth coat. Now, I can hear some of you saying, “Thank God!” Regardless, it is all in fun. Goldee has been a Superstar–she models professionally but also for Grandma Terri Jacobson who has provided countless high-quality photos that we were able to share on our blog. Thank you, Grandma Terri!
What did I mean by indulging other than combing the occasional Mohawk? How about the braid that Holly and Goldee shared like twins? Click here to see that slideshow. It is all in fun. The non-longhair crowd imagines this hair is different than the reality. It doesn’t mean there is not a bit more grooming; however, with the grooming it is manageable. There is not the pile of hair along the woodwork, nor is the yellow oil stain on the wall. Neither is a thing with this breed. Your clothing, the furniture, and whatnot are not covered with hair. Even the traditional coat sheds, so yes, you can find hair. Nevertheless, in comparison with other breeds, I think we can call it nominal.
The toe fluff can be groomed if you want to get away from the extra tracking effect. Nothing can save you from the Weimaraner that chooses the mud bath. What can I say? That requires at least a rinsing. We have known people who get their Longhair shaved for the summer–yes, the hair comes back. And just in case you didn’t know, there is a double coat–the thick undercoat with the feathering that can vary in the amount and length. A smooth coat who carries the DNA marker for the Longhair might have the double-coat with not real feathering. Or they may have a little wavy hair down their back, on their tail, etc.
You cannot brush the hair up into a Mohawk style or braid it unless they are a true Longhair. Some celebrate these events and love the wavy ears. Toe hair gets photographed. Who knew, it would be a thing? While some detest what many call the Other Weimaraner, the number of fans continue to grow. It is a fascinating phenomenon.